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It was a quiet afternoon.

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Not much was happening.

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Nothing was happening.

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ADMINISTRATION

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I was here looking out the window

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and a customs vehicle approached.

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And then another, another and another.

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Vehicles of all kinds appeared.

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It caught my attention.

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So I went out to talk to one
of the customs agents who were there.

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He said someone important was coming.
A VIP, that's what he said.

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The pilot warned
by radio approaching from the south.

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and your intention
was to land on runway 10

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and enter right base,
turn right for the final stretch.

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<i>Copied.</i>

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And when it was reported,

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we check the license plate number
and we don't find it in the Virtower,

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the program we have on the computer,

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so we were curious,
It caught our attention.

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It arrived and landed.

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I left and walked to the door.

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There were people in suits, well dressed.

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From the FBI, the DEA,
Customs and Border Patrol.

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I saw a person get off the plane.

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He shook my hand and entered.

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Then another came down,
He waved to the people in suits,

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They took his arms back...
and they handcuffed him.

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Yes, he approached, he shook their hands
and then he turned like this.

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And then they entered the Customs building.

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That was it.

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<i>This looks taken out</i>
<i>from an episode</i> of Breaking Bad.

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<i>It is a great victory for the United States</i>
<i>and his war against the drug cartels.</i>

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<i>How did they do it?</i>

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I was in Hope,
New Mexico, a hidden place,

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when I received an alert on the phone.
It said: "Ismael el Mayo Zambada trapped."

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Once we arrive,

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I was surprised that the plane was,
literally, there for everyone to see.

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The national and international press.

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But that was nothing more, just the plane.
There was nothing else.

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Mayo had been there for decades
hiding in the mountains of Sinaloa.

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We never imagined that one day
he would land his plane in Doña Ana.

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I don't know, it wasn't possible.

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Ismael "el Mayo" Zambada
getting off the plane is...

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I don't even know how to say it.
Would you have imagined it?

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For me, clearly, it was:
"Yes, here is the plane.

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But what's inside?"

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we were watching
what we believed, or was alleged,

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that had been the last moments
of freedom of May.

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What we saw was extraordinary.

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The oxygen mask.

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In another sector,

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there was a bag
with Mexican sweets and trinkets.

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One of the items
that simply blew my mind

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It was a bag of Oxxo.

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It had some seals inside.
They stood out, you could see them.

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There I thought, "Well, this is interesting.

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"Why would they want seals?"

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You stay with the idea
of what things are props.

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What is real and what is not.

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In many ways, that cover I made
It ended up being ironic,

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because in the interview
what Julio Scherer did in 2010...

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He says that in that interview
He said those hills protected him,

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his land, the country where he comes from.

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In a moment,
He says he didn't trust heaven.

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In that interview, when he asked
about the possibility of being detained,

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He answers: "Until today,
"A traitor has not appeared there."

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Meet Sierra and Luna.

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When they got home,

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my daughters asked me:
"What are they going to be called?"

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And I said: "Chapo and Mayo."

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And they answered me:
"Oh, no dad, how horrible. What a shame."

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They were unanimously revoked.

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In 2011, the HSI office
in Nogales he received information

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about a guy crossing
through the Nogales border post

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and declared
an incredible amount of money.

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{\an8}Hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time.

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{\an8}There is nothing illegal about that.

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But is it suspicious? Definitely.

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They began to watch him.

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And they saw that these people,
In Mexico, I wanted to buy airplanes.

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They wanted to buy planes in the USA.
and enter them legally into Mexico.

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They were in a Cessna 210,
which costs between $200,000 and $300,000.

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They were fascinated by the King Air.

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The King Air were worth
between $400,000 and up to almost $700,000.

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They also liked CitationJets.

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They cost like a million dollars.

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So at the beginning of the case,

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we bought the planes they wanted

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with a covert account.

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We installed them
GPS trackers and transponders

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so I could see where they were going.

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It was crystal clear.

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They took off to the south of Mexico
and they landed on some clandestine runway.

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Eight or ten hours later,
you saw them again in the air.

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In other words, they were carrying cocaine.

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Once they arrived
north of Guatemala or south of Mexico,

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They burned them right there.

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They only used it once.

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Fuck it!

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It was a fortune
what they spent on those planes.

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I remember asking the case agent:
"It is an incredible logistical operation.

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How do they coordinate it?"

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And the agent tells me: "Yes, they talk...
BlackBerry messages are sent."

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And I stayed...

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We have to think of a way
to intercept your communications.

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The DEA lent us,
I think about five computers

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that we put in a little room that we used
of listening room in Nogales.

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And there we began to intercept
the first BlackBerrys.

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We had a bellyful.

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They didn't even speak in code.

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I couldn't believe that, really,
These messages were sent.

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They usually speak in code,
They are more verbose.

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They felt so comfortable
with BlackBerry Messenger

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who operated and spoke as if nothing had happened.

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They weren't just conversations.

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We also intercept photos

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of tremendous amounts
of packages of cocaine.

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photos of landing strips,
poppy plantations

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weapons, wads of cash
and all kinds of things.

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I remember thinking:
"Who the hell do we have here?"

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When we start
to work with the government

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They said they needed evidence.

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of the bosses
doing business in the United States.

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They told us that these tests

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would make a difference in the case

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and they would help us.

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{\an8}We had to invent our way
to give them that information.

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<i>Yes, well.</i>

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The twins
They cooperated, and the clock began to tick.

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We knew we had only a few weeks.

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to gather all the evidence

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against the leaders of the Sinaloa cartel.

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It was a resounding success.

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They recorded Chapo organizing
a heroin deal in Chicago,

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{\an8}in which we could record
two price negotiations with Chapo.

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They tried to do the same with Mayo,

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but they did not succeed
to talk to them on the phone.

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Mayo was disciplined.
He never spoke on the phone.

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I had someone
who made the calls for him.

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I saw him use the phone once.

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And when it was over,
he himself grabbed a hammer

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and tore it to shreds right there.

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Then he picked up all the pieces
and he put them in his pocket.

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They summoned Margarito
to a meeting in the mountains, in Sinaloa,

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with Chapo, Mayo and his son Vicente.

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At the meeting,
Vicente tells Margarito:

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"We need to bring Mexico
American military weapons.

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But we needed to have it recorded

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to be able to use it as evidence
in court.

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What they did was very dangerous.

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That was a call with Vicente Zambada,

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the son of Mayo.

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When we cut,
My brother and I became sensitive.

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because we knew
what we were doing.

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And we felt like we were betraying
to everyone.

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Then one day

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a high ranking member
of the Sinaloa cartel

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He called me and threatened me.

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He asked me, "Are you cooperating?

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Are you cooperating? Are you giving us away?"

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The next day,
The prosecutor called us and told us:

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"It's over. We're going to get them out of this."

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At that moment,
Were you aware of that meeting or...?

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No no.

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At least, not that I remember.

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And I think it's something I would remember.

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The first thing I remember is finding out...

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They arrested him at dawn,

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so i found out
of his arrest that same day.

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After Vicente was arrested,

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received what I can only describe
like terrible legal advice.

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His defense was to claim

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that the United States government
had granted him immunity.

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And not only that,

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but they had also given him immunity
to the entire Sinaloa cartel,

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in that famous frustrated meeting.

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By that time, we moved very quickly

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and we get
a formal accusation against Vicente

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that would allow him to be extradited to Chicago.

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all thanks
to the cooperation of the twins.

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We begin to intercept communications

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in which they made reference to "the Old Man".

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Whoever was in charge
The messages showed respect.

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And we thought: "It has to be
someone extremely important."

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And then we intercept
to El Chapo's children.

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They talked about "Mouse", which is Ovid,

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or "Güero", which is Joaquín.

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In the fall of 2013,

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an agent named Jack came

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and he tells me: "We have them."

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He brought me the transcript
of a conversation between a woman and a man.

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The woman was ranting,
from top to bottom.

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Like: "You left me, that's why you're alone,

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That's why you're not doing well in life.

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Only God knows what will become of you.
"You owe me money."

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For anyone who got divorced,

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It was clear that it was an ex-wife.
ranting against his ex.

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Jack said, "It's Griselda."

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Chapo Guzmán Griselda had three children.

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Ovid, Joaquín and Edgar.

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Before he died, Edgar had a daughter.

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Her name was Frida, F-R-I-D-A.

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"Hey, give Fridita a kiss for me.

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Tell her she's the spoiled one."

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It's Chapo Guzmán
talking to Griselda about her granddaughter.

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And he is asking Mouse
let him go look for her.

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I couldn't believe it.
"You're right, it's him."

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{\an8}El Chapo Guzmán
It was on the other side of the device.

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{\an8}The most incredible thing about all this:
at that very moment,

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{\an8}Serafin Zambada appears
at the Nogales port of entry.

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Appeared in the port
with your real name and ID.

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I thought: "Is it a coincidence?

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"What the hell is all this?"

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I went down to the port, and there was Seraphim.

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I was wearing a t-shirt
with the flag of the United States.

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I remember I told him:

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"Hey, what's up? Where's your dad?"

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He made me a little smile,
and I thought, "That makes sense."

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So we arrested him.

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I told the boys:

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"Look, the word is going to start spreading
about this arrest."

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And yes, it didn't take more than half a day.

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Rumors began to reach us:
"Hey, they arrested Sera."

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"We don't know what happened.
Did anyone talk to the Old Man?"

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{\an8}And that's when we fell.

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{\an8}"The Old Man is May, that's him."

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"Now let's move on to mode...

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manhunt."

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FROM: ERIC S BALLIET

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By the end of 2013,

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we had intercepted
to Chapo's entire internal network.

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We had a constant flow
of information

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about where each of these guys was
at all times.

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EX-WIFE GRISELDA

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SON OVIDIO GUZMÁN

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But Zambada...

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That guy was a ghost.

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MAY CONTINUES ACTIVE

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Mayo was much more careful.

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We never managed to intercept
a conversation with Mayo.

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I'm still not 100% sure.
of how he communicated.

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I BELIEVE THAT OUR INTELLIGENCE
IT WILL NEVER BE THIS GOOD.

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00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:07,585
But the data we had

244
00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,504
was that Mayo used to frequent

245
00:27:09,504 --> 00:27:12,132
some ranches on the outskirts of Culiacán,

246
00:27:12,132 --> 00:27:17,053
but they didn't know exactly
when he went or how long he stayed.

247
00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:18,972
"But we're going to take the risk.

248
00:27:18,972 --> 00:27:21,141
If it is there, a half-court goal."

249
00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:25,812
So while we were thinking
how we were going to carry out the operation,

250
00:27:25,812 --> 00:27:28,982
we asked the DEA
Who would they recommend?

251
00:27:28,982 --> 00:27:31,276
And they told us:
"SEMAR, the Mexican navy."

252
00:27:33,737 --> 00:27:38,658
They are the least corrupt unit in Mexico.

253
00:27:39,826 --> 00:27:43,496
And they have a reputation for being ruthless.

254
00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:45,266
So I said, “Fantastic.
"We will do it with them."

255
00:28:56,194 --> 00:28:57,445
THE BIRD WILL TAKE OFF IN APPROX...

256
00:28:57,445 --> 00:29:01,116
It was decided that, first,
we would go to the ranches of Mayo

257
00:29:01,116 --> 00:29:05,286
and then we would execute
Chapo's side in Culiacán.

258
00:29:54,836 --> 00:29:58,548
SEMAR raided a ranch.

259
00:30:03,136 --> 00:30:07,349
There were three of the main men
of May security.

260
00:30:09,142 --> 00:30:11,728
Basically, they said, “Yeah, sometimes it comes.

261
00:30:13,438 --> 00:30:15,315
But we haven't seen him for a few days.

262
00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:17,859
We don't know when he will return.

263
00:30:18,693 --> 00:30:22,113
They simply give us the order
and we set up security."

264
00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:23,823
And that was it.

265
00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:25,825
The very nothing.

266
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:29,454
I was: "The fucking mother."

267
00:30:35,335 --> 00:30:38,922
After a while, on the same ranch,

268
00:30:38,922 --> 00:30:44,344
They found those, huh,
200 liter blue barrels

269
00:30:44,969 --> 00:30:48,014
buried all over the ranch.

270
00:30:48,598 --> 00:30:52,227
And inside the barrels,
an incredible amount of weapons.

271
00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:55,313
Each one wrapped in plastic film.

272
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:59,192
For me,
It was like his treasure for war.

273
00:30:59,192 --> 00:31:00,735
When things got ugly

274
00:31:00,735 --> 00:31:04,823
and they had to take out
heavy artillery and ammunition,

275
00:31:05,407 --> 00:31:09,452
that was his collection
from "Ipm, it's time to fight."

276
00:31:12,163 --> 00:31:15,333
You could say
which was an important find.

277
00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:20,505
I mean, it was the closest
that someone was about to catch him.

278
00:32:58,019 --> 00:33:00,313
I don't have much in common with Vicente.

279
00:33:00,313 --> 00:33:03,024
Except I love airplanes.

280
00:33:03,650 --> 00:33:07,070
And he had nine Cessna 209s.

281
00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:10,657
{\an8}I was in Phase 1
Witness Protection,

282
00:33:10,657 --> 00:33:12,659
{\an8}or WITSEC Phase 1 of the Bureau of Prisons.

283
00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:15,829
He was VZ,

284
00:33:15,829 --> 00:33:18,957
that later
I found out it was Vicente Zambada.

285
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:24,379
I met him at the same time as Sammy.

286
00:33:25,255 --> 00:33:27,048
{\an8}Sammy the Bull.

287
00:33:27,048 --> 00:33:30,927
{\an8}But I don't remember Vicente
When exactly did I meet him?

288
00:33:30,927 --> 00:33:35,181
{\an8}but it was probably playing soccer
because we played together all the time.

289
00:33:35,765 --> 00:33:37,976
He was very intelligent.

290
00:33:38,935 --> 00:33:40,311
I don't...

291
00:33:40,311 --> 00:33:45,150
The truth is, for several months
I didn't know anything about him.

292
00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:47,861
But one day it opened

293
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:52,532
and started showing me photos
of your lifestyle.

294
00:33:53,783 --> 00:33:58,621
It was the photos
most ridiculous things I've ever seen in my life.

295
00:34:01,958 --> 00:34:03,918
He showed me photos of his shoes

296
00:34:03,918 --> 00:34:07,213
and he was like, "See these? They cost $10,000."

297
00:34:11,468 --> 00:34:15,472
I remember him like that, as a happy guy.

298
00:34:15,472 --> 00:34:19,684
But I can also imagine it,
I don't know, crying tormented at night.

299
00:34:19,684 --> 00:34:21,269
He had his own demons.

300
00:35:12,696 --> 00:35:15,699
<i>Federal authorities transferred</i>

301
00:35:15,699 --> 00:35:19,953
<i>to an alleged Mexican drug trafficker from Chicago</i>
<i>to a federal prison near Detroit.</i>

302
00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:23,790
The boss of the Sinaloa cartel
He is not happy with the facilities.

303
00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:25,667
{\an8}METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER

304
00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:28,878
{\an8}<i>During the two years</i>
<i>in the Chicago Correctional Facility,</i>

305
00:35:28,878 --> 00:35:33,341
{\an8}<i>Zambada Niebla was not allowed</i>
<i>go up to the terrace to exercise.</i>

306
00:35:33,341 --> 00:35:38,805
{\an8}<i>The authorities said they were at risk</i>
<i>of being killed by a sniper</i>

307
00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:41,266
{\an8}<i>or that he planned an escape by helicopter.</i>

308
00:35:41,266 --> 00:35:44,227
<i>So your lawyer</i>
<i>he claims that he lives totally isolated.</i>

309
00:35:44,227 --> 00:35:48,398
<i>He says that even the haircut</i>
<i>Your client's service was three weeks late.</i>

310
00:35:48,398 --> 00:35:51,234
<i>Everything as punishment</i>
<i>due to Zambada Niebla's complaints</i>

311
00:35:51,234 --> 00:35:55,030
<i>of the conditions</i>
<i>from the Chicago Correctional Center.</i>

312
00:36:58,718 --> 00:37:00,053
In 2010,

313
00:37:00,053 --> 00:37:03,348
the interview they did with him came out
al Mayo Zambada in <i>Process.</i>

314
00:37:03,348 --> 00:37:06,518
I think it was a message for Vicente.

315
00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:09,145
I was telling Vicente

316
00:37:09,145 --> 00:37:13,400
I was thinking about him
and that he wanted me to have a photo of him.

317
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,956
I'm going to skip the details,

318
00:38:09,956 --> 00:38:15,628
but we installed a system
with a designated phone,

319
00:38:16,504 --> 00:38:20,508
to let us know when May
felt comfortable and safe

320
00:38:20,508 --> 00:38:22,886
how to take those calls.

321
00:38:27,098 --> 00:38:29,392
The first was at dawn.

322
00:38:46,576 --> 00:38:48,787
How surreal to hear his voice.

323
00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:51,414
<i>Here we are, on the banks of the Rio Grande.</i>

324
00:38:51,414 --> 00:38:55,043
It was very clear
that it was good for them to hear their voices.

325
00:38:56,503 --> 00:39:00,256
And then, Vicente went on to do
what we asked him to do.

326
00:39:01,091 --> 00:39:04,469
The main objective
It was that he was sincere, from son to father:

327
00:39:04,469 --> 00:39:05,720
"Dad, I'm not okay.

328
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,390
I'm in a cell
in a United States prison.

329
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:12,268
Dad, could you help me
if you do the right thing, if you give yourself."

330
00:39:12,268 --> 00:39:15,105
It was just, “Dad, help me.

331
00:39:15,105 --> 00:39:17,524
Help me with this problem."

332
00:39:19,275 --> 00:39:20,735
<i>Yes, I'm still there.</i>

333
00:39:23,488 --> 00:39:24,698
He gave everything.

334
00:39:24,698 --> 00:39:31,287
In other words, he tried to appeal to that idea
of "You already had your moment, it's over."

335
00:39:35,959 --> 00:39:39,462
He told me
that he had been talking to his dad.

336
00:39:39,462 --> 00:39:43,133
When he came back from having the call,
He seemed excited.

337
00:39:45,969 --> 00:39:49,514
And he also told me, from what I understood,

338
00:39:49,514 --> 00:39:54,352
that existed
some type of arrangement or agreement

339
00:39:54,352 --> 00:39:57,689
which involved his father's health,

340
00:39:57,689 --> 00:39:59,232
which was not very good.

341
00:39:59,232 --> 00:40:01,776
Like they were going to release him

342
00:40:01,776 --> 00:40:03,862
when his dad turned himself in.

343
00:40:05,363 --> 00:40:08,908
Change! His father imprisoned,
and he, free in Mexico.

344
00:40:08,908 --> 00:40:09,826
That...

345
00:40:10,702 --> 00:40:12,370
was what he explained to me.

346
00:40:15,248 --> 00:40:17,959
We were able to organize

347
00:40:17,959 --> 00:40:20,337
a couple of direct communications

348
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,548
so that Vicente can convince Mayo.

349
00:40:23,548 --> 00:40:26,301
From what we could deduce,
during the second call

350
00:40:26,301 --> 00:40:27,302
I was on a plane

351
00:40:27,886 --> 00:40:30,221
surrounding a cell phone antenna.

352
00:40:31,097 --> 00:40:35,060
I knew that we or that the Mexicans
we could geolocate it.

353
00:40:36,186 --> 00:40:39,981
And when the call ended,
He threw the phone out the window and...

354
00:40:45,904 --> 00:40:47,989
Mayo said he was going to think about it.

355
00:40:50,116 --> 00:40:55,121
Eh, but I think we collided
with the limit of love for his children.

356
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,722
After the Mayo ranch,

357
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,142
they started talking about it
in the news.

358
00:41:16,726 --> 00:41:19,896
The only thing that really worried me

359
00:41:19,896 --> 00:41:26,361
It was that, like these guys
They were so intertwined for so long,

360
00:41:26,361 --> 00:41:30,240
If there was an operation against Mayo,

361
00:41:30,865 --> 00:41:34,077
What effect could that have?
in Chapo's faction?

362
00:41:35,453 --> 00:41:37,288
We were all in Tucson,

363
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,834
surrounded by monitors,
with nerves on edge.

364
00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:42,669
We only had one chance.

365
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,675
We received live listening.

366
00:42:02,147 --> 00:42:04,107
ERIC BALLIET: SKIPPY, HOW DO YOU SEE EVERYTHING?

367
00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:07,402
We also received alerts
to a group chat.

368
00:42:07,402 --> 00:42:08,945
JAKE: RESTED AND READY!

369
00:42:08,945 --> 00:42:13,199
Chapo had a courier
who made all his orders.

370
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:17,245
His alias was "Nose."

371
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:21,207
The boys on site
They thought they had it in sight.

372
00:42:21,207 --> 00:42:22,125
JAKE: HE'S ALONE.

373
00:42:22,125 --> 00:42:24,794
I remember they wrote: "We see Nose."

374
00:42:24,794 --> 00:42:26,212
ERIC BALLIET: THAT'S IT, GIRLS

375
00:42:28,506 --> 00:42:30,425
So they caught Nose.

376
00:42:30,425 --> 00:42:33,720
They sent a photo and it was...

377
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:35,930
I understood why they called him Nose. I had...

378
00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:37,599
He had a little nose, didn't he?

379
00:42:38,975 --> 00:42:40,685
ERIC BALLIET: HA HA HA!

380
00:42:40,685 --> 00:42:43,229
They interrogated him and he handed over the house to them.

381
00:42:43,229 --> 00:42:45,231
He said something like, "Chapo is there."

382
00:42:45,231 --> 00:42:46,274
"Fuck it!"

383
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,471
The marines raided the house in Culiacán.

384
00:43:18,014 --> 00:43:20,767
But they found each other
with an armored door.

385
00:43:21,267 --> 00:43:24,562
They were ready to destroy everything.

386
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:27,732
You could hear the commotion.

387
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:30,026
When they finally did it,

388
00:43:32,737 --> 00:43:33,655
they stayed:

389
00:43:33,655 --> 00:43:37,575
"This son of a bitch has a tunnel
under a bathtub."

390
00:43:48,628 --> 00:43:51,297
The SEMARs were furious.

391
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,842
They were willing to do shit everything.

392
00:44:03,852 --> 00:44:08,231
"We will fall into every house
that we know is associated with him.

393
00:44:44,851 --> 00:44:49,230
THE TYPE AND "CONDOR"
THEY ARE AT THE MIRAMAR HOTEL IN MZT.

394
00:45:09,876 --> 00:45:13,171
CONFIRMED OPERATION
FOR EARLY TOMORROW.

395
00:45:17,258 --> 00:45:19,761
AT THE DOOR IN 30 MIN.

396
00:45:41,074 --> 00:45:42,659
Who is below you?

397
00:45:43,451 --> 00:45:46,705
Well, below me,
The boys, there, who...

398
00:45:47,998 --> 00:45:50,083
Yeah, that's clear. But who?

399
00:45:51,001 --> 00:45:53,878
They have been Picudo,

400
00:45:55,213 --> 00:45:56,047
Bravo...

401
00:45:57,924 --> 00:45:59,092
This...

402
00:45:59,092 --> 00:46:01,636
No, I don't think there are many people.

403
00:46:01,636 --> 00:46:02,846
Who else?

404
00:46:04,889 --> 00:46:05,890
Bear.

405
00:46:07,684 --> 00:46:09,060
Who else?

406
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:10,937
A boy they call Cholo.

407
00:46:12,689 --> 00:46:15,066
They took him down to the parking lot.

408
00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:17,485
I still have the message.

409
00:46:18,862 --> 00:46:20,947
"We got him, people! We got him."

410
00:46:23,825 --> 00:46:26,453
I remember looking at the photos
that were arriving

411
00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:28,705
and I thought: "What fucking madness!"

412
00:46:57,734 --> 00:47:01,196
The capture
of the most wanted drug trafficker in the world,

413
00:47:01,196 --> 00:47:04,532
and how US and Mexican authorities
they finally caught him

414
00:47:04,532 --> 00:47:06,993
{\an8}after more than a decade
of escapes and evasion.

415
00:48:08,972 --> 00:48:10,306
I remember that message.

416
00:48:10,306 --> 00:48:12,267
HE ESCAPED.

417
00:48:12,267 --> 00:48:13,393
It said: "He escaped."

418
00:48:14,019 --> 00:48:15,645
I thought, "Don't fuck with me!"

419
00:48:52,349 --> 00:48:55,185
<i>This time, his escape is like a movie.</i>

420
00:48:55,185 --> 00:48:57,520
<i>He slipped through a gap in his cell</i>

421
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,025
{\an8}<i> towards a complete tunnel, with ventilation,</i>
<i>lights and a motorcycle on a rail,</i>

422
00:49:02,025 --> 00:49:04,152
{\an8}<i>which he apparently used to get out.</i>

423
00:50:14,222 --> 00:50:16,599
Up! Above! Above!

424
00:53:58,196 --> 00:54:01,032
{\an8}<i>A Mexican officer told us</i>

425
00:54:01,032 --> 00:54:05,662
{\an8}<i>than Alfredo, who is believed to be part</i>
<i>of the new leadership of the Sinaloa cartel,</i>

426
00:54:05,662 --> 00:54:08,790
{\an8}<i> reportedly he was not taking his role</i>
<i>very seriously.</i>

427
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:12,043
{\an8}<i>He also expressed that Alfredo</i>
<i>"I used to party</i>

428
00:54:12,043 --> 00:54:15,755
{\an8}<i>and they caught him off guard,</i>
<i>which allowed his kidnapping."</i>

429
00:55:15,398 --> 00:55:17,567
I was about to leave.

430
00:55:17,567 --> 00:55:19,694
I was almost out the door,

431
00:55:19,694 --> 00:55:22,530
and someone shouts to me from inside:
"It's coming."

432
00:55:36,461 --> 00:55:38,588
The first time we saw him,

433
00:55:39,422 --> 00:55:41,675
I felt like I was surprised to be there.

434
00:55:41,675 --> 00:55:43,677
Well, we all were.

435
00:55:45,011 --> 00:55:48,682
I don't know, especially someone
with so much history around.

436
00:55:50,350 --> 00:55:53,144
We had the person
that we had been investigating

437
00:55:53,144 --> 00:55:54,771
for more than a decade.

438
00:55:58,108 --> 00:56:01,903
{\an8}I mean, it was...
I will never forget that day.

439
00:57:20,190 --> 00:57:23,943
When Vincent
He entered the room and took the stand,

440
00:57:23,943 --> 00:57:27,947
looked at Chapo
and made a sign of respect.

441
00:57:53,765 --> 00:57:57,268
<i>He is testifying</i>
<i>against him. He's your enemy, right?</i>

442
00:58:00,397 --> 00:58:02,816
{\an8}<i>Did you think I was doing you a favor?</i>

443
00:58:43,815 --> 00:58:48,069
There was a very crazy exchange
in the testimony of Vicente,

444
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:51,197
{\an8}in which he said that he had entrusted him
El Chapo and his father

445
00:58:51,197 --> 00:58:54,617
{\an8}that, possibly,
He wanted to withdraw from the cartel.

446
00:59:15,930 --> 00:59:19,184
Basically,
El Chapo and El Mayo recommended him

447
00:59:19,184 --> 00:59:23,355
who could betray one of his enemies
of rival cartels.

448
00:59:23,355 --> 00:59:26,441
And so he could retire

449
00:59:26,441 --> 00:59:29,277
and get a light sentence.

450
00:59:30,487 --> 00:59:33,823
It wasn't something we knew
until much later.

451
00:59:34,657 --> 00:59:37,535
When Vicente came to that meeting
in Mexico City,

452
00:59:38,328 --> 00:59:41,623
El Chapo and Mayo
They had authorized him to cooperate.

453
00:59:42,791 --> 00:59:46,670
No matter how sophisticated they were
El Chapo and El Mayo at that time,

454
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:50,965
I don't think that when they authorized it
to go to Mexico City

455
00:59:50,965 --> 00:59:52,550
to cooperate with the DEA,

456
00:59:52,550 --> 00:59:57,931
really believed that that
It was going to lead them to their own downfall.

457
01:01:20,805 --> 01:01:24,559
<i>The famous</i>
<i>Mexican drug trafficker, Joaquín "el Chapo" Guzmán,</i>

458
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:28,146
<i>was found guilty of drug trafficking</i>
<i>in a trial in New York.</i>

459
01:01:28,772 --> 01:01:31,232
<i>Guzmán broke the silence.</i>

460
01:01:31,232 --> 01:01:34,986
<i>He told the judge: "Justice was not done here.</i>
<i>They denied me a fair trial."</i>

461
01:01:34,986 --> 01:01:38,573
<i>But the judge, emphasizing</i>
<i>in the terrible evil of Chapo,</i>

462
01:01:38,573 --> 01:01:41,493
<i>he was sentenced to life imprisonment.</i>

463
01:01:41,493 --> 01:01:45,789
<i>In addition, Guzmán will have to pay</i>
<i>12.6 billion in compensation.</i>

464
01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:48,667
<i>The man who commanded</i>
<i>to torture and kill his enemies</i>

465
01:01:48,667 --> 01:01:52,754
<i>he blew his wife a kiss</i>
<i>before leaving the court.</i>

466
01:03:15,462 --> 01:03:20,800
We knew that if we got
Mayo and Chapo out of the equation,

467
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,055
It wasn't like the Sinaloa cartel
It was going to dissolve just like that.

468
01:03:25,055 --> 01:03:26,723
They have a succession plan

469
01:03:26,723 --> 01:03:30,977
and the plan was that Chapo's children

470
01:03:30,977 --> 01:03:34,564
rise and take their place.

471
01:03:34,564 --> 01:03:35,899
The same with Mayo.

472
01:03:45,784 --> 01:03:49,746
In 2014, we had,
In my professional opinion,

473
01:03:49,746 --> 01:03:53,500
{\an8}a tremendous amount of evidence
that involved Ivan,

474
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,503
{\an8}Ovid and Joachim.

475
01:03:57,212 --> 01:04:01,091
I think not to stop them in 2014,

476
01:04:01,091 --> 01:04:05,136
with Monday's newspaper,
It was a strategic mistake.

477
01:04:06,846 --> 01:04:08,348
So...

478
01:04:09,224 --> 01:04:10,725
That thorn stuck in me.

479
01:04:12,394 --> 01:04:16,272
<i>We are facing</i>
<i>to the worst drug crisis in history.</i>

480
01:04:16,272 --> 01:04:18,024
The drug is fentanyl.

481
01:04:18,024 --> 01:04:22,278
{\an8}A synthetic pain reliever
100 times more powerful than morphine.

482
01:04:22,278 --> 01:04:26,658
{\an8}As a street drug, it is much more potent
than even heroin in its greatest purity.

483
01:04:26,658 --> 01:04:32,038
{\an8}The illicit use of this synthetic opioid
It is devastating the United States.

484
01:04:32,038 --> 01:04:35,250
{\an8}And the Mexican cartels
are benefiting from the profits

485
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:37,460
{\an8}and a market addicted to drugs.

486
01:05:07,032 --> 01:05:11,077
El Chapo's children
Ovid, Ivan and Alfred,

487
01:05:11,077 --> 01:05:12,996
known as Los Chapitos,

488
01:05:12,996 --> 01:05:15,915
They are the new leaders
of the Sinaloa cartel.

489
01:05:16,916 --> 01:05:20,545
<i>They inherited an empire</i>
<i>of global drug trafficking</i>

490
01:05:20,545 --> 01:05:25,133
<i>and they made him more ruthless,</i>
<i>more violent and more deadly.</i>

491
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:28,511
<i>And they used it to scatter</i>
<i>a new poison: fentanyl.</i>

492
01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:31,848
<i>As a direct result of your actions,</i>

493
01:05:31,848 --> 01:05:36,186
<i>we have lost hundreds of thousands of lives</i>
<i>of US citizens.</i>

494
01:05:37,103 --> 01:05:41,316
<i>And so, the DEA proactively targeted</i>
<i>to the Chapitos network.</i>

495
01:05:41,816 --> 01:05:44,402
- Raise your hands!
- Salt.

